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TK
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Does anyone know the manufacturer in the Midwest of plywood sandwiched between gelcoated fiberglass? Thought I originally found the contact on Skifly but am unable to find now.
Craig Brooks
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Fiber-Tech Industries in Washington CH, Ohio made our surface probably 8 years ago and its still in great shape
TK
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Craig, thanks for the info.
Tony
sheskis
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I'm picking up my surface next week at Fiber-Tech It's 3 panels .75/641,076/17,17   96" x 14'  The price is 1596.00 (standard white) + 250.00 for CT641 Gel Coat (Red) + 101.53 Taxes  Total $1947.53  The person to contact is Rhonda Shackelford Direct Line: 1-740-636-3206 or toll Free: 1-800-879-4377 Ext. 3206.   rshackelford@fiber-tech.net.  My lst surface I bought in 2001 and it still isn't in too bad of shape, but my jump never comes out of the water.  Some people order the white and paint them but my last one I got in red and it still is as red as when it was new, and all I ever do is wax it every season
Slaysh
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Is that a per panel price or the total for all 3?
sheskis
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That's the total cost of the 3 panels with the red color.  That doesn't include shipping which would have been $500 more to Indiana (120 miles)So I'm picking it up myself for a cost of gas plus $60.00 for a rental trailer.
Slaysh
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Wow. Not bad. Is that a plywood sandwich panel I assume? (Sorry, forgot to ask before)
sheskis
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Yes, it's 3/4 " plywood totally wrapped in fiberglass with red coat finish.  My first surface I got in the spring of 2001 and it cost $1499.40  Not bad price difference for 12 years.  I think the panels that are still on my jump are still ok to use for building a storage box and putting a platform of the front of the jump.
Mike
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How did you fasten the surface to your frame? (We have a metal frame)
waxer
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I use the same surface & use Stainless 5/16-18 Flat heads (countersink the heads 1/8") & use a brass nyloc nut underneath so it cant back out. Then you hot wax right over & you cant even tell there are screws there. 
waxer
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Craig, what do you use on your edges to seal them up & keep water out?
jumpintomtom
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Hey guys, great thread.  We actually called and got a quote for the same board and specs and the price was great.   If it comes in three pieces, and you fastened it with 5/16 18 stainless, then dripped wax in the hole to seal it I assume.   

- there are industrial grade adhesives to glue it to the frame and never put a hole in the surface pieces at all.  Any thoughts on that?

- For the surface from fiber-tech, the edges were sealed or exposed and we need to seal them?  

- if the surface is gelcoated, do we even need to wax the top if we have water pumping down it from the top?

Thanks everyone!

Ski ya later
EB
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Waxing:  The World Rules contain this, under Homologation Guidelines:

"The jump ramp must be waxed. The wax used must have been previously used and tested and found to be appropriate for the use."

However, some sites have used car polish wax, so it would be OK.  The familiar jump wax
can be prone to the Goose Poop phenomenon, and get gritty.
jumpintomtom
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Originally Posted by EB
Waxing:  The World Rules contain this, under Homologation Guidelines:

"The jump ramp must be waxed. The wax used must have been previously used and tested and found to be appropriate for the use."

However, some sites have used car polish wax, so it would be OK.  The familiar jump wax
can be prone to the Goose Poop phenomenon, and get gritty.


This is more for show ski jumping, not Freddy distance jumps.    Wasnt sure how much wax really plays into the equation then. (but maybe?)
JB
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Scot has the best wax.
waxer
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No matter what the surface, gel coat or any other, you need wax! I strongly dislike site that only use floor wax or any other super thin type of wipe on wax. You can certainly feel the difference not to mention the evidence of scuffing on your skis. The use of hot wax should be mandatory in my opinion. 
Dave
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Waxer, do the jumps with floor wax seem too slow or too fast?
waxer
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the floor wax feels slow to me. a fresh application is fast but the problem is it doesn't last therefore isn't consistent  & it doesn't create a nice buffer between those expensive $$ jump skis and the hard sometimes rough jump surface. 
Dave
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Thanks
Taperflex
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Jumped on a newly redone surface this weekend that only had Armor All on it. It was really fast. Anyone else use this?
Ron Kokernak
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Ron Kokernak....we have been using ZEP commercial floor wax for years on our surface & it is OK, but could be better. The reason, of course, is the goose poop.

In writing to the ZEP folks & telling them why & how we use it, they said ( not surprisingly) it is not designed to be used "outside" & that it would "quickly deteriorate". They also do not make any type of product that would help us. 

We start off the season by cleaning the surface well & then put 4-5 coats of the ZEP wax, doing it again mid-summer which helps. We also use JOHNSONS PLEDGE multi surface floor wax on the bottom of our skis that additionally helps. It is an acrylic wax formulation & is used as a "sacrificial"surface, resurfacing the area that is affected on the skis is very easy...& it won't change anything for when you jump on a "regular" wax ramp either. At end of season, very easy to remove and/or replace.

Now that Ed has mentioned auto polish/wax, it may be worthwhile to contact some of those companies because THEIR polishes/waxes ARE designed to be out in the weather...Will give them a try, thanks ED..............Ron




Waxer
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Scot has the best wax around. Its slick,fast, lasts long & is easy to apply.
Ron Kokernak
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I totally agree that "regular"jump wax ( Scots' is certainly recommended) is the way to go...we do what we do because we can't shoot the damned seagulls !
Thick
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4 to 5 coats of wax... sounds awful!
Ron kokernak
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Please understand this is NOT 4-5 coats of REGULAR jump wax, it is thin, liquid FLOOR wax! About as thick as you would put on your car......
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